North Slope Middle School Admissions Policy

A couple days ago I stumbled upon a Brownstoner post from May entitled “From the Forum: How Do I Navigate Park Slope’s Public Schools?” which was in fact a question about North Park Slope middle school admission policies specifically. I live in North Slope, have sent all three of my kids to the North Slope zone elementary school (PS 282) and have been through the middle school process with my oldest child. I’m also an elected member of CEC 13 and the Youth Chair of CB6 (which overlaps mostly with District 15, but overlaps D13 in North Slope).

Public middle school admissions in NYC are notoriously complex, but they are especially confusing in North Park Slope (by which I mean the District 13 portion of North Slope, which is the PS 282 zone as well, bound by – and please, look at the district map on NYC School Search – Union St between PPW and 6th Ave, 6th Ave, President from 6th to 3rd Ave, 3rd Ave to St. Mark’s, St. Mark’s to 4th Ave, 4th Ave to Bergen, Bergen to 5th Ave, 5th Ave to Flatbush and then Flatbush to Plaza and Union St at GAP).

I posted a response – albeit a few months after the original post. I am sharing it here as I hear a lot of questions from parents in the Slope and surrounding neighborhoods about this policy. It’s very confusing, but the headline is that if your LIVE in the 282 zone, your child is conferred District 15 (e.g., schools like 447, 88, 442, 51, etc.) middle school choice, even though technically North Slope is part of District 13. This is a function of where you live, not where your child goes to elementary school. 

Anyway, here’s my response which includes 4 examples that are the most common scenarios I hear about:

… (Y)ou should always go to schools.nyc.gov/schoolsearch/ first to check to see what the situation is with your home address and its elementary zone and overall district, which constrains (somewhat) 1) your child’s movement [choice] among elementary schools and 2) your child’s middle school choice.

First, know that middle school is a function of 1) the district of your child’s elementary school and 2) the district of your home address. In many cases these are the same, but when they are not, you will get access to BOTH sets of school[s] and the middle school form that will be generated by your child’s elementary school will include the union of the two districts’ middle schools.

Regarding the 282 zone [District 13 portion of North Slope], it is correct that the 282 zone (i.e., addresses in the 282 zone – a.k.a. “North Slope ”) “flips” to D15 for middle school. [Note Inside Schools also validates this – “Because of quirks in zoning, children who are zoned for PS 282, part of District 13, are eligible to attend District 15 middle schools and many take advantage of that option.”] 

That is, while PS 282 is a (D)istrict 13 elementary school, (home) addresses (i.e., student who live IN, not attend school AT) PS 282 zone will get District 15 choice.

Here are 4 scenarios:

1. You live in the 282 zone and your child goes to PS 282 for elementary school (my first hand experience): Your child will get D15 schools (e.g., 442, 447, 136, 51) because of your address AND will also get D13 schools (Arts & Letters, the Dock Street school, eventually the new middle at Atlantic Yards) because 282 itself is a D13 elementary. (D15 + D13 = D15/D13)

2. You live in the PS 9 zone [Prospect Heights] and your child goes to 282. Your child will ONLY get D13 choice because the PS 9 zone does not have this “quirky” rule [about D15] and 282 is a 13 school.  (D13 + D13 = D13)

3. You live in the 282 zone and your child attends 321 [not getting here into the how of how you pulled that off]. Your child will ONLY get D15 choice because you live in the 282 zone (which flips to D15) and PS 321 is a D15 school.  (D15 + D15 = D15)

4. You live in Prospect-Lefferts Gardens (D17) and your child attends 282. Your child will get access to both D13 and D17 middles (but NOT D15) (D13 + D17 = D13/D17)

[Adding four scenarios – three scenarios for PS 133 and one for PS 9…

5. You live in the 282 zone and send your kids to PS 133. Your child will get D15 middle school choice (because of your address) AND D13 choice (because PS 133 is technically a D13 elementary school, even with its dual-district elementary school admissions policy). (D15 + D13 = D15/D13)

6. You live in, say, South Slope – i.e., D15 – and you send your kids to PS 133. Your child will get D15 middle school choice AND D13 middle school choice. (D15 + D13 = D15/D13)

7. You live in, say, Clinton Hill – i.e., D13 – and your kids to PS 133. Your child will ONLY get D13 middle school choice (D15 + D13 = D15/D13).

8. You live in North Slope (i.e., the 282 zone) and send your kid to PS 9. Your child will get D15 choice from your home address and D13 choice because PS 9 is a D13 school. (D13 + D13 = D13)]

Note, 282 also has a middle school – MS 282. MS 282, along with MS 266 on Park Place and 6th in Park Slope [but temporarily relocated to the PS 93 building in Crown Heights for two more years while the building is refurbished], are D13 schools (despite being located in the D15 middle school choice catchment, to make it even more confusing) and adhere to the same policies as other D13 middles such as MS 113, Unisons, Fort Greene Prep, etc … with one additional wrinkle — MS 282, like MS 8 and Arts & Letters also in D13, give an additional admissions preference to “continuing on” students from their respective lower schools, as these 3 schools have, to some degree or another, a K-8 model.

I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion around this policy a bit (and note I’m not getting into out of district variances, which is a hole other matter). Again, this policy is something parents ask about a lot. While North Slope parents have lots of reasons for choosing other elementary schools than their zone school, 282 (or nearby 133, also in North Slope, which is de-zoned), I always cringe a little bit when someone who lives in North Slope cites D15 middle school choice as the only reason they did whatever they did to secure a D15 elementary school seat since their home address had already conferred to their child District 15 middle school choice regardless of the district of their child’s elementary school.

Thoughts on the PS 8 and PS 307 #D13Rezoning

The proposed #D13Rezoning of PS 8 and PS 307 is now garnering national attention. Both the NY Times and Wall Street Journal have done stories about the rezoning topic in the last day.

Given the attention being paid to this potential rezoning, I wanted to post some of my comments I’ve made about the many issues each of us as cec13brooklyn members, including myself, need to weigh once we have a formal proposal presented (expected September 30th) and we prepare to vote.

As I’ve written about before, I’m dismayed by Brooklyn’s educational parallel universes (i.e., the Mayor’s “two cities”) so evident in this discussion, as well as the contradictions and conundrum inherent in advocating for the opt-out movement and yet citing test scores as a reason to not send your child to a particular school. Some of the most difficult issues core to this discussion – segregation and racism – were the initial impetus for my interest in district planning and the CEC (especially in 2009 as the new 133 plan was being developed) and have been a critical factor at my children’s school, psms282 (itself the subject of several NY Daily News opinion pieces on the topic of NYC school segregation here and here.)

Here first is a comment I posted originally to Facebook last week.

I applaud Mayor Bill de Blasio for speaking up on the Brian Lehrer Show about the need to demand developers build schools in and around new residential construction. (Also – Both CEC13 Brooklyn and myself are big fans of the ‪#‎CS4All‬ initiative and applaud that announcement).

This in mind, and as we discuss collectively and respectfully the PS 307 / PS 8 rezoning with each other, we should keep in mind my great friend and fellow CEC member Ed Brown’s point towards the end of the PS 307 town hall about the under utilized schools in and around Brooklyn Heights, DUMBO, Fort Greene, and Downtown Brooklyn. We all see the high rises going up, and the potential is clearly there for a need for more middle and elementary seats. But while downtown schools like PS 46, PS 67, and PS 287 – even D13 schools further afield such as Park Slope School PS/MS 282 (my kids’ school) – go under-used by the community and their surrounding neighborhoods, the SCA is unlikely to make new elementary school buildings in D13 a priority, as planning happens at a district, not zone, level. When demanding new elementary schools be built, and thinking from a district planning perspective, we need to be mindful of the schools nearby that have unused seats. And as Ed challenged us, we should ask why are these schools struggling to fill their roster.

We also need to keep in mind that all elementary school students become middle schools students. When we’re asking about more elementary capacity, we must think ahead to middle school capacity. This is why initiatives such as M.S. OneBrooklyn are so important. All our kids in D13 deserve to have great middle school choices after they complete their elementary school education.

Today I reiterated some points above, expanded upon others, and made some points anew, in a Facebook comment:

(A)s CEC member who will be voting on this, I hope we use this as an opportunity to call attention to a few other issues, especially school funding, the billions owed by the state to the city in school funding (the state owes PS 307 $880K, PS 8 $2.1M), and the implicit expectation that PTAs must pick up much of, among other things, the cost of core enrichments important to attracting new parents and growing young lives. Many D13 schools are in a “doughnut hole” where they no longer have Title I status but still can’t produce the hundreds of thousands of dollars in PTA funds that some celebrated Brooklyn district public elementary schools can and do.

I hope too we look at testing and how test scores are used to evaluate schools. I struggle to get my head around white parents who are active in the opt-out movement and then use test scores as their rationale to avoid a school that is majority students of color. I also urge us to stop using phrases like “good school” and “bad school”.

I hope we also keep mindful of district wide needs and planning including that (and why) we have under-utilized elementary schools nearby. I also hope we can stay mindful of middle schools and the need to plan for strong middle school communities throughout the district. It’s great to advocate for more and stronger elementary schools – we also need strong middles for all those kids too.

I challenge all of of us – not just Black and White but our Asian and Hispanic sisters and brothers too – to think hard about diversity and segregation and what it means to live our values in our own lives and with our own children.

Finally I hope we can look more at how developers have come into communities like downtown and Prospect Heights getting huge tax breaks, public funding, and the power of eminent domain to tear down existing housing and offices to be replaced with gleaming towers. The developers much be held to account to the existing community, not just the one to which they market and is yet to come to Brooklyn.

Two closing points:

  • While I write this primarily in my CEC 13 capacity, I’m also a board member of Community Board 6, which mostly overlaps with District 15. As we think about middle and elementary school planning for Downtown Brooklyn, I urge everyone – including and especially the Downtown Brooklyn Schools Planning Working Group (DBSPWG) – to consider the District 15 portion of Downtown Brooklyn (primarily the PS 261 and PS 38 zones) as well as more broadly the impacts of new residential growth in developments such as Fortis/LICH. A coordinated, rationalized plan considering both District 13 and District 15 is crucial.
  • I really hope folks use this rezoning to reflect on educational equity. ALL kids deserve a great education at a safe school. I generally disagree with the negative characterizations of PS 307 – this is a school I know pretty well and there are amazing things happening there. But I find it troubling that only now that DUMBO children might be zoned for 307 that some DUMBO parents are taking an interest in a school in their own neighborhood, just blocks from their home. Did not the educational prospects of those children matter before the rezoning? If a school is not good enough for your child, is it good enough for any child? Again, I think PS 307 is a strong school community so I’m not asking these questions to imply I agree with the negative characterizations. I just am bothered that apparently few to any of these concerns with the school (307) were brought up by the DUMBO community when it was “other people’s children” going there. Do the educational opportunities we create for brown and black children from NYCHA houses – our neighbors – matter less? Do young #BlackLivesMatter?